This commercial on Black Entertainment Television addresses the number one killer of African Americans: Abortion. Learn more by view Life Dynamics' film: Maafa21 -- Black Genocide in 21st Century America.
Great ad. African Americans need to know exactly what is going on and how abortion impacts their community. They are not getting the truth from the mainstream media nor black advocacy organizations.
This is pure anti-abortion propaganda. The makers are lying by changing words. If someone were to be out rounding up black pregnant women and performing abortions on them without consent, you MIGHT be able to call it genocide. But that's not happening. The correct wording for our current situation is: Statistics show that the majority of women CHOOSING abortions is black. You can't call it a black killer when it's a legal option for women of all ethnicities to terminate their own pregnancies. There is no big bad abortion company prowling on black women.
There isn't? So you're saying that Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers situate themselves in predominantly African-American (and Hispanic) neighborhoods because that's where the demand is? It's just a matter of marketing to a demographic? So we should blame them for choosing abortion in higher numbers? Maybe you should watch the entire Maafa21 documentary. Why do these groups choose abortion more often?
Planned Parenthood is set up in poor areas because they are most used for their discounted and affordable services like birth control and reproductive health. Poor places need that more than anywhere. Plus, PP doesn't get much funding so they have to get buildings where the rent is cheap. They're not just an abortion clinic. ANYONE can go to those clinics (I drove an hour to get to my closest PP cause I couldn't afford to go anywhere else at the time). It's not a place that ONLY does abortions and has signs that say CALLING ALL MINORITIES! ABORTIONS HERE! They don't market or advertise at all. More minorities have abortions cause it's minorities who often land in bad places (regarding money, safety, emotional wellbeing, etc) and don't feel confident putting a child in that situation as well. I don't blame abortion clinics or the women seeking them. I blame the society that has failed them by not making them feel secure enough to have kids.
PP doesnt' get much funding? Try almost a million $ a day! See the facts from their most recent annual report: http://www.all.org/article/index/id/ODI5Nw/.
You're right that people need to do more. Did you know there are over 2,000 pregnancy care centers that offer help for free to pregnant women? Many of these offer ongoing help and support. They do not have budgets like PP, but rely on individuals and churches for funding. Many are struggling in these economic times, but are committed to continuing because women are struggling even more.
Going back to something you said earlier: yes, this is anti-abortion propaganda. But what about the propaganda that PP spreads in order to make a profit? They encourage young women to have sex outside marriage, and then offer them abortions when they get pregnant. Quite a cozy deal.
Frankly, PP doesn't need your advocacy. They put out plenty of it themselves, with lobbyists all over Washington and a huge fundraising machine. They are feeding off the poorest of the poor.
What propaganda are you talking about??? I used PP in my youth. They don't encourage anyone to have sex. They only give resources to do it safely. Whether those sexually active people are married or not is none of their business or yours or anyone else's. Their biggest service is BIRTH CONTROL. So they don't encourage people to get pregnant and abort. They don't even advertise so I don't get how people think they're "on the prowl" for pregnant minorities. Saying that abortion kills more black people than anything is propaganda and a lie. Saying that PP encourages unplanned pregnancies to profit off of abortions is propaganda and an even bigger lie. People have abortions. That won't change. Instead of bashing institutions that actually care about what the individual wants (PP has no bias toward abortion, parenting, or adoption unlike those "crisis" pregnancy centers who are only out to convince a girl not to abort even if that's what she wants to do) try making birth control more available to those who want it. Oh wait, PP does that too. I'm glad there is well funded pregnancy support for those who want it. But people need to understand that from pregnancy starts a life long journey and it's much harder on some people than others. It's not just telling someone that god wants them to keep their baby. There's no pro life advocacy group that can provide the real life long help that someone in that spot needs. I've used 2 of those before and all that nice funding went to paintings and furniture for a building where a lady can tell you over and over again (as politely as she can) not to abort and call it a counseling session. If you don't like abortion, fine. Then do something truly productive about it. Spreading lies won't stop someone from having one if that's what they truly want/need. So stop wasting money on advertising propaganda and put it towards say legal help to put restraining orders on the people these girls are afraid of hurting them, midwives and doulas for them, fast track education programs, food, shelter, cloth diapers, breastfeeding help and pumps, infant CPR classes, and such. Sure it'll cost more money than commercials, but don't you wanna help? If you advertised REAL help, you could actually make way more girls feel safe and confident about continuing pregnancies. And isn't that the point? Wanting people to see their pregnancy as a miracle rather than a tragedy they got stuck in? You're never gonna convince everyone that abortion isn't for them. Cause like it or not, it's the best option for a lot of people and they have the right to take that option. But if you cared enough, you could make it so that someone who WANTS to continue a pregnancy feels ready to do so. You won't get far focusing on embryos. You have to consider and want to help the pregnant women themselves, their environments, and their desires.
I need to apologize for adding fuel to a discussion that is getting a little heated. I take responsibility for that.
We have a basic disagreement on what REAL help is. Is it real help to offer birth control which is 90% effective, or to help women avoid entanglements with unworthy men by remaining abstinent -- which is 100% effective? Is it real help to offer abortion, which carries with it some very real negative consequences, or to help a woman be the hero in her child's life by carrying to term?
There's room to argue about what's "truly productive" too. You certainly have some experience to draw on in evaluating both pro-life and pro-choice organizations. But I daresay that Planned Parenthood is not above criticism, as the advertisement and film point out.
As I said, perhaps you need to watch the film. It seen in its entirety on YouTube, starting here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic4SpdvmdOc&feature=related.
Re: abortion statistics for blacks, I'm sorry but you're wrong. Here's an article bearing that out: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/07/nyregion/07abortion.html?_r=2. Abortions in that city are twice the rate as in other parts of the country - 40% of all pregnancies. 60% of all black pregnancies in NYC are aborted, while black women account for something like 13% of the population.
That's alarming, don't you agree? That's why black leaders are speaking out against abortion. They focus on PP because it's the nation's largest abortion provider. Yes, they provide other services, but they also provide the most abortions.
I don't want a heated debate. But understand that just like spreading lies or bending truth with twisting words, "helping women avoid entanglements with unworthy men by remaining abstinent" will never work. You CAN NOT rely on telling people not to do something they want to do. People have been having sex since the beginning of people. It's obviously an enjoyed thing that's not going anywhere. Not everyone wants to wait for marriage or wants marriage at all. These are all personal choices that you have no place forcing on people. So since the majority of people choose to follow their natural instincts and have sex, it's a better service to make their choices safe rather than preach something that will never work. Trusting abstinence isn't realistic and you have to be realistic. It really doesn't matter if someone doesn't like that another person has sex out of wedlock or has an abortion. It's not that person's business or concern. Also keep in mind that there are plenty of people who get married but don't tell themselves they might as well become baby factories now. Birth control and abortion, like sex, is something that concerns married couples, unmarried couples, singles, and anyone who hits puberty. But the biggest point I'm trying to make here is that lying by calling abortion providers racist murderers won't increase abstinence rates. I admit that abortion isn't natural. Like any medical procedure, it comes with risks. But to deny it's benefits and never mention the physical/emotional risks and hardship of parenthood (there's more to it than having a baby and changing diapers but I won't get into that) is plain ignorance. It's not black and white. It's a complicated decision that every individual has to make for themselves without the influence of lies or scare tactics. I'm sorry, but I can't believe a statistic that says nearly half of all pregnancies are aborted. That sounds like a dramatic exaggeration. Even so, if 40% of women didn't want to be parents but did want to be sexually active, then you can either give them access to birth control or mind your own business. Because these very big personal choices are not up to other people to make. Telling someone NOT to have sex when they want to is no more acceptable than telling someone TO have sex when they don't want to. Telling someone TO have children when they don't want to is no more acceptable than telling someone who wants children NOT to have any. I can't believe anyone has the audacity to think they can boss people around like this. You either help people make their choices safe or butt out. I was told not to have sex. It didn't make me not have sex. I was told I shouldn't be "allowed" to have one of my own children. (and no, it wasn't by someone pressuring me to have an abortion) It didn't make me not have that child. Telling people how to live their lives is unethical and has no results. I can understand where pro-lifers are coming from. But it's not ok to force or trick people into doing what you want. I'm asking for people to understand that.
Perhaps we're not spreading lies or bending truth but giving another perspective -- one other than has been fed society by the PP machine. Women deserve the right to know the kinds of things that PP is not telling them: That abortion kills a person, not a "blob of tissue;" that the Pill and other forms of birth control don't protect from STDs; that abortion can cause future infertility.
Where did you get the idea that pregnancy care centers "force" or "trick" women to do anything? Sounds like something that PP propaganda would say. Of course we know that women will do what they want about sexuality, but that doesn't change the truth that sex outside marriage carries many risks, and it won't stop us from talking about it -- which we have a right to do.
No one forces a woman to come to a pregnancy care center for help; she's free to take it or leave it. Women are forced to abort by a coercive parent or partner more often than you may think. Here's some information to back that up: http://unchoice.org/intro.htm.
I don't know who would tell you you shouldn't be allowed to have a child, but I'm fairly certain it wasn't someone at a pregnancy resource center. I think we fit your description of helping people make their choices and butting out. It's heartbreaking when someone walks out the door intent on getting an abortion despite what we've said, but we have to let them go. That happens all too often. I know of no center that bars the door or holds women hostage until they give in, or whatever scenario you're talking about. If you think speech is coercive, then there's no hope for our democracy.
Calling abortion providers racist murderers isn'tt a perspective. It's a lie. The majority of women seeking abortions are minorities. That's a statistic & there's nothing wrong with women knowing them. I've never heard an embryo referred to as a blob of tissue by anyone in the medical field. Sounds like another thing people like to falsely accuse abortion providers of doing. Whether or not it's a person is a whole other argument. I went to PP for birth control. Every person & pamphlet was very thorough in explaining the forms & what they do/don't do. They never claimed anything but condoms/abstinence protected against STDs & were honest about effectiveness of all methods. The risks of everything including abortion were covered. So again, people lie about PP trying to keep women ignorant when their biggest mission is helping them be informed. As someone who's gone to 2 pregnancy centers I can say from experience that they obviously have an agenda & only provide what caters to that. Their information was very biased/limited. A pamphlet I received said something along the lines of "How to Decide If You Should Abort". It was JUST a list of fetal development. The end was 40 weeks -you now have a beautiful baby & it finished off with "Now you have the information you need to make an informed choice." That was NOTHING on how to make an informed choice. If ANYONE is guilty of keeping women ignorant it's those places. When I speak of forcing I mean the political ways pro-lifers try to take away the option like making it illegal or ending funding. When I speak of trickingnI mean scare tactics (like expressing the risks of abortion as dangerous certainties) or (like one pamphlet I saw) saying abortionists don't sterilize their medical supplies, or just not giving someone the whole truth (good AND bad) about what comes with continuing an unplanned pregnancy. I'm not accusing the centers of physically forbidding abortions. I'm above making dishonest statements in attemp to help my cause.
Go ahead and talk about risks of sex out of marriage. But don't be so rude to pressure others into only doing what you find appropriate for family planning (remember there are people who don't ever want families & have just as much sexual need as anyone else). It's unfair to who ever is seeking help to only be told what YOU think instead of all the details of all HER/HIS options. Even married couples like to control their number of pregnancies & some have comfortable arrangements with not being exclusive. Marriage isn't a point where reproductive health/birth control no longer exist. I know some are pressured into abortions they don't want. I find it disgusting. But just like forcing an unwilling woman to abort, forcing unwilling women to continue (by taking their financial aid, not allowing legal access to abortions or having them fear being shot by an extremist if they go to an abortion clinic) is also immoral & unethical. There are plenty of teens who were forced by their parents to give up a child for adoption when they want so badly to keep it. There are women who are forced to have and keep children they don't want. It changes her life forever as well as leaves that child with an uncommitted parent. What makes all these situations unfair is the individual's inability to choose for herself. Abstinence til exclusive marriage with no use of birth control resulting in 10 kids may be for you. Condoms may be for a married couple of swingers. Sterilization may be for the sexually active single person. Pills may be for the exclusive unmarried couple. Fertility charting may be right for the couple who doesn't like drugs or devices in their body. Everyone's different & has options. Trying to hide or discredit those options is a harmful & offensive. If you talk to someone about abstinence & they decide it's not for them, you need to point them in the direction of a sex ed counselor. If you talk to someone about continuing a pregnancy & she decides she'd rather abort, you need to point her in the direction of a legal abortion provider. If you talk to someone about keeping a baby & she decides she'd rather give it up for adoption, you need to point her in the direction of an adoption agency. If you talk to someone about hormonal birth control & she decides it's not for her, you need to point her in the direction of a fertility awareness course. If you talk to someone about population control & they decide they want children, you need to point them in the direction of a fertility counselor. If you talk to someone about aborting & she decides she'd rather parent, you need to point her in the direction of a prenatal care provider, government assistance, childcare classes, & anything else she needs to be a good parent. It's all about choice & giving every person honest, complete, thorough information on every choice available & how to make that choice as safe as possible. If you're not doing that then you're really not out to help people. You're out to control them.
1) In point of fact Planned Parenthood DOES advertise, at least here in Houston. I have seen the billboards. 2)They(PP) advocate educating kids to sexual activity from birth, and they do it in our school systems. 3)They also have the support of the teachers unions who will counsel kids to go to PP. 4) They encourage abortion through the distribution of inferior contraceptives. 5) Did you know that if you are pregnant, you can only get a free ultrasound at Planned Parenthood if you schedule and pay for an abortion? 6) Did you know that hormone based contraceptives and abortion increase a woman's risk of breast cancer, and that while involved in the 'Race for the Cure' PP knowing continues to push the cause, contraceptives and abortion? So much for caring about women. 6) But they also don't care about men. Did you know that Planned Parenthood produced a sex-ed brochure telling recipients it was 'up to HIV positive persons to decide if they should tell prospective sex partners their HIV status. Not only is that medically irresponsible, but it is illegal in several states. 7) One has to assume they send the same message about all STDs. Small wonder we have an epidemic of STDs. I guess the message is their sexual pleasure is more important than the other person's health or even life. 8) And although tax dollars have poured into PP's till for decade upon decade the outcome is not reduced poverty, reduced teen pregnancy, reduced STDs, reduced crime or improved female equality.
Study Authors Puzzled Why Abortions Rise with Contraceptive Use
The results of a new study just published in the journal Contraception on contraception use and abortion rates in Spain have researchers puzzled.
The study, conducted over ten years, was meant to “acquire information about the use of contraceptive methods in order to reduce the number of elective abortions.” From 1997-2007, researchers recorded the various contraceptive methods being used by a representative group of Spanish women, as well as their abortion rates.
What they discovered has them completely baffled— as contraception use increased, so did the abortion rate.
Researchers Puzzled by Results
In fact, while contraceptive use among these women went up significantly over that period—from 49.1% to 79.9%—the abortion rate rose even more dramatically—from 5.52 to 11.49 per 1000 women.
In other words, a 63% increase in contraception use was accompanied by a 108% increase in abortions.
The Spanish researchers are completely at a loss to explain these results, concluding that “The factors responsible for the increased rate of elective abortion need further investigation.”
Their puzzlement is understandable: they set out with the assumption that contraception can be used to reduce abortion, hoping to fine-tune that basic approach. Instead, they found abortions only increased with more contraception.
More Contraception Means More Abortion—But Why?
The Spanish research team may be at a loss to explain these results, but they make perfect sense to pro-life advocates who have been saying for years that contraception is not the answer to abortion.
The impact that contraceptive use has on people’s sexual behavior is profound. Contraception does not merely mitigate the effects of people’s risky sexual behavior—it radically alters their sexual behavior.
Seemingly free of the most significant and concerning consequence of sex—pregnancy—people behave differently, just as one would expect. They’re more willing to take sexual risks—more sexual partners, more casual sex, more “cheating” etc.—and the end result is more unplanned pregnancy, not less; more abortion, not less.
I’m not saying that using contraception will turn any given individual into a sexual amoralist. But that’s the aggregate effect on contraception across our society.
I’ll go even farther and say that the widespread use and availability of contraceptives has fundamentally altered the way our entire society thinks about sex. Sex has become decoupled from pregnancy (and therefore from marriage and family), a change that impacts even those who are not, at the moment at least, using contraception.
Further Study Called for—Let’s Have It!
Meanwhile, here’s hoping that the “further investigation” the authors of this new study are calling for takes place. If they study these issues honestly, they’ll find out that we pro-lifers have been right all along: contraception increases abortion. Pro-Life Action League
Anonymous said "Not everyone wants to wait for marriage or wants marriage at all. These are all personal choices that you have no place forcing on people. So since the majority of people choose to follow their natural instincts and have sex, it's a better service to make their choices safe rather than preach something that will never work. Trusting abstinence isn't realistic and you have to be realistic. It really doesn't matter if someone doesn't like that another person has sex out of wedlock or has an abortion. It's not that person's business or concern. Also keep in mind that there are plenty of people who get married but don't tell themselves they might as well become baby factories now. Birth control and abortion, like sex, is something that concerns married couples, unmarried couples, singles, and anyone who hits puberty."
If anyone is fooling themselves that sex between unmarried persons is nobody else's business, look at the state of society since the so called "free love sexual revolution." Since the 1960s, our society has experienced an increase in STDs, pornography, rapes, sexual predators, divorces, single parenthood, abortion, child abuse, domestic violence, pregnancies at younger ages, etc. It is not just a result of more reporting either. These are huge societal problems that have consequences/fallout, so you can't say private sexual behavior doesn't affect the rest of us.
If there is documentation that asserts Planned Parenthood has behaved in a racist manner, then it's valid for that to be made known -- both to the general public and to our government which funds PP. Many black leaders are coming out and saying PP is racist, and they are calling their constituents to beware. I think that's a perfectly valid thing to do, given the huge numbers of abortions in the black community.
Planned Parenthood has also been caught lying to clients about fetal development and contributing to the coercion of minors seeking abortion. See the videos at http://liveaction.org/.
It is a matter of perspective, and we could go on all day talking past each other because we don't agree on some basic things. There's no way a Christian, pro-life organization is going to encourage or enable women to have sex outside marriage because we hold to the sanctity of marriage. Similarly, we're never going to facilitate an abortion, because we believe in the sanctity of human life. There's some of what you mention that does fit in with those beliefs -- like adoption -- but a lot that doesn't. We support and sacrifice for what we believe in, and shouldn't be criticized for not being willing to pay for what we don't believe in.
Planned Parenthood doesn't hold to our beliefs about life or marriage and we don't expect them to change, but we can speak out and say that we don't want our tax dollars supporting a group that so thoroughly opposes what we believe in. If PP didn't feed at the public trough we wouldn't have much to say about it. We'd still oppose them, but it wouldn't be as important to us.
WOOOOW! There are so many lies here that it's hard to keep up! I lived in Houston my whole life and went to school there. I also used the PP. What billboards there are are just a phone number and list of reproductive health services. No "Hey kids! Go have sex, don't use protection, get pregnant, then come to us for an abortion!" They do not encourage sexual activity from birth (where the hell did you get that from??) or not telling sexual partners about diseases. They offer the same birth control everyone else does and you don't have to pay for an abortion to get an ultrasound. Does anyone here feel any shame for being dishonest??
No, someone else's sex life is not your business. Lack of SAFE sex spreads STDs. But if you're married and exclusive then that shouldn't affect you anyway. Pornography increased cause of how easy it has become to make and share it. But again, porn availability doesn't affect you if you don't watch it. Rape has always happened and it makes no sense to say that having sex before marriage affects that. Being married didn't stop my step father from molesting me as a child. Same for sexual predators. Divorce happens because more people are able to sustain themselves. It's not so standard anymore to be pressured into getting married young and having to stay in said unhappy marriage forever. Thankfully, people have the option to live their own lives now. Again, someone else's divorce doesn't affect you. Single parenthood is caused by trashy people who just don't take responsibility for their kids. In or out of marriage doesn't change the parent who leaves. Again, this doesn't affect you. Abortion happens with anyone who has sex at all and doesn't want children and comes from lack of safe sex. Married women have abortions. Again, this doesn't affect you. Child abuse has also always been around. People are just starting to care about it now. It's foolish to say it comes from having sex out of marriage. It comes from violent people. My mom was married all through my abuse. I had plenty of sex before marriage yet I've never abused my children and I'm a huge advocate of child safety. Domestic violence is also a result of just violent people. This actually happened abundantly in your admired time of forced marriage with no divorce option. Pregnancies have always happened at young ages because of nature. Humans hit puberty, develop our reproductive organs, become sexually aroused, mate, and reproduce. That's how it's always happened. This is only a problem now cause our societies are made to have people still considered children unable to sustain themselves even after they reach physical adulthood. The solution? Contraception. Your social problem examples either don't affect you or are just complete lies.
If it's your perspective that PP is a racist killing devil, that's unfortunate. If you admit that you know people will do what they want (which is very often not what you want) yet you still pressure only unwanted therefore ineffective "options", in the end you're doing nothing. If you don't put REAL effort into helping those who don't abort (buy them a convertible car seat, give them a place to live, be a trustworthy babysitter, help pay for their prenatal care, help them with work or chores in the stressful post partum phase) and just sit on your butt telling them that they're carrying life and god likes life, then in the end you're doing nothing. You don't like that there are institutions that make sex out of marriage safer for people so you "handle" them by spreading lie after lie, in. Thankfully the people who use these services know that you're liars. The only people who fall for it are those in your club who'd never consider it in the first place. So in the end you're doing nothing. So all this nothing is being done while those who are doing something get slandered. My perspective is that christian pro life advocates are just brainwashed terrorists on freedom of choice with no concern for any individual who is different from them who use propaganda to force their belief of an imaginary higher being on others focusing on demonizing the oldest and most basic thing in human kind (sex) and using blobs of cells as their mascot. Thankfully though, most people already know this. It was nice conversing with you all but it's apparent that your brainwashing can't be undone and neither compassion for all people nor logic can be taught to you. Enjoy your day bashing people and doing nothing for the productivity of the society you hate so dearly.
I just want to point out to you and the other readers that I published all your comments, Anonymous, including this last one that is rather abusive in nature. I doubt most "brainwashed terrorists" would do that.
This just in from Planned Parenthood in Boston: http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/ambulance-transports-victim-from-boston-planned-parenthood-abortion-clinic/
On National Geographic channel you can watch a program on fetal development from the moment of conception to birth. You can look at 14 medical textbooks on embryology. You can walk into a bookstore and flip open a book for pregnant moms with pictures of developing babies. You can see ultrasound pictures for yourself on the internet and even real photos of aborted babies. Anonymous, are you going to say that all these people are brainwashed? Only abortion proponents call the human being before their eyes a blob of cells.
Anonymous, you remind me a person who has her/his fingers in her/his ears, eyes closed, and making noise so as not to hear the truth another person has to say. Wake up, you're in denial.
An excerpt from former Planned Parenthood director Abby Johnson's book Unplanned:
I was expecting to see what I had seen in past ultrasounds. Usually, depending on how far along the pregnancy was and how the fetus was turned, I’d first see a leg, or the head, or some partial image of the torso, and would need to maneuver a bit to get the best possible image. But this time, the image was complete. I could see the entire, perfect profile of a baby. . . The image now before me looked the same, only clearer, sharper. The detail startled me. I could clearly see the profile of the head, both arms, legs, and even tiny fingers and toes. Perfect. . . What am I about to see? My stomach tightened. I don’t want to watch what is about to happen.
I suppose that sounds odd coming from a professional who’d been running a Planned Parenthood clinic for two years, counseling women in crisis, scheduling abortions, . . . But odd or not, the simple fact is, I had never been interested in promoting abortion. I’d come to Planned Parenthood eight years before, believing that its purpose was primarily to prevent unwanted pregnancies, thereby reducing the number of abortions. That had certainly been my goal. And I believed that Planned Parenthood saved lives—the lives of women who, without the services provided by this organization, might resort to some back-alley butcher. . .
“Thirteen weeks,” I heard the nurse say after taking measurements to determine the fetus’s age. . .
The cool air of the exam room left me feeling chilled. My eyes still glued to the image of this perfectly formed baby, I watched as a new image entered the video screen. The cannula—a strawshaped instrument attached to the end of the suction tube—had been inserted into the uterus and was nearing the baby’s side. It looked like an invader on the screen, out of place. Wrong. It just looked wrong.
My heart sped up. Time slowed. I didn’t want to look, but I didn’t want to stop looking either. I couldn’t not watch. . . My eyes flew to the patient’s face; tears flowed from the corners of her eyes. I could see she was in pain. The nurse dabbed the woman’s face with a tissue.
. . At first, the baby didn’t seem aware of the cannula. It gently probed the baby’s side, and for a quick second I felt relief. Of course, I thought. The fetus doesn’t feel pain. I had reassured countless women of this as I’d been taught by Planned Parenthood. The fetal tissue feels nothing as it is removed. Get a grip, Abby. This is a simple, quick medical procedure. My head was working hard to control my responses, but I couldn’t shake an inner disquiet that was quickly mounting to horror as I watched the screen.The next movement was the sudden jerk of a tiny foot as the baby started kicking, as if trying to move away from the probing invader. As the cannula pressed in, the baby began struggling to turn and twist away. It seemed clear to me that the fetus could feel the cannula and did not like the feeling. And then the doctor’s voice broke through, startling me.
“Beam me up, Scotty,” he said lightheartedly to the nurse. He was telling her to turn on the suction—in an abortion the suction isn’t turned on until the doctor feels he has the cannula in exactly the right place.
I had a sudden urge to yell, “Stop!” To shake the woman and say, “Look at what is happening to your baby! Wake up! Hurry! Stop them!” But even as I thought those words, I looked at my own hand holding the probe. I was one of “them” performing this act. My eyes shot back to the screen again. The cannula was already being rotated by the doctor, and now I could see the tiny body violently twisting with it. For the briefest moment it looked as if the baby were being wrung like a dishcloth, twirled and squeezed. And then the little body crumpled and began disappearing into the cannula before my eyes. The last thing I saw was the tiny, perfectly formed backbone sucked into the tube, and then everything was gone. And the uterus was empty. Totally empty.
Response to Anonymous' remark (January 11, 2011 12:32 PM) that "it doesn't affect you": If that's true, then don't involve me by using my tax dollars (again, almost $1 million per day) to support what you do. As long as PP feeds at the public trough, we the people have something to say about it, whether we use PP's services or not.
Anonymous, I am sorry you were molested. These things do not happen in a vacuum. Actions have consequences. There is a ripple effect throughout society. Remember what Dr. M. L. King said "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
I work with juvenile offenders. It is very rare for these juveniles to come from an intact home. We know children do better in homes with caring, committed, connected, moral adults in their lives. I've treated kids who have been affected by one or more of the social problems I mentioned. They were abused, molested, had parents who had multiple sexual partners perhaps engaged in prostitution, whose mothers had abortions, exposed to domestic violence, etc. These kids in turn victimized others (and themselves) by committing crimes including sexual offences. Because of a dysfunctional home life, they continued the cycle until they got help to understand their past and their problems.
Safer sex may reduce the risk of STDs, but it does not eliminate it. Condoms are not a panacea and can give people a false sense of security. They don't protect against some types of STDs at all. Pornography fuels sexual offenders.
Generally speaking, children are shaped for good by having more positive experiences in their lives, and for worse by the negative experiences. The trend of the increase in family and societal problems since the 1960s is there. These are facts, not lies.
I would also appreciate it if you debated the issue and not engage in ad hominem attacks. Just because you do not agree with pro-lifers does not mean we are brainwashed. When a person makes an ad hominen attack, it means he or she can't honestly defend his/her position.
Thanks to everyone who commented. We recognize that there are many different opinions on this issue, but we believe it is very important to remind people that there have been countless minority women (as well as others) who have been pressured to have abortions. It is also important to remember that there is currently a waiting list of loving families who want to adopt black infants, so every baby can and should be welcomed into the world.
Wider distribution of birth control sounds good in theory, but we have to ask ourselves why we have more birth control available than ever before and far more out of wedlock conceptions than we did when there was less birth control available. The birth control argument also ignores the increase of STDs (nearly half of all black teenagers have genital herpes) and the failure rate for young women.
Thank you for posting this. This is true; the rate of abortions for African-Americans is 3 times that of whites.
ReplyDeleteGreat ad. African Americans need to know exactly what is going on and how abortion impacts their community. They are not getting the truth from the mainstream media nor black advocacy organizations.
ReplyDeleteThis is pure anti-abortion propaganda. The makers are lying by changing words. If someone were to be out rounding up black pregnant women and performing abortions on them without consent, you MIGHT be able to call it genocide. But that's not happening. The correct wording for our current situation is: Statistics show that the majority of women CHOOSING abortions is black. You can't call it a black killer when it's a legal option for women of all ethnicities to terminate their own pregnancies. There is no big bad abortion company prowling on black women.
ReplyDeleteThere isn't? So you're saying that Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers situate themselves in predominantly African-American (and Hispanic) neighborhoods because that's where the demand is? It's just a matter of marketing to a demographic? So we should blame them for choosing abortion in higher numbers? Maybe you should watch the entire Maafa21 documentary. Why do these groups choose abortion more often?
ReplyDeletePlanned Parenthood is set up in poor areas because they are most used for their discounted and affordable services like birth control and reproductive health. Poor places need that more than anywhere. Plus, PP doesn't get much funding so they have to get buildings where the rent is cheap. They're not just an abortion clinic. ANYONE can go to those clinics (I drove an hour to get to my closest PP cause I couldn't afford to go anywhere else at the time). It's not a place that ONLY does abortions and has signs that say CALLING ALL MINORITIES! ABORTIONS HERE! They don't market or advertise at all. More minorities have abortions cause it's minorities who often land in bad places (regarding money, safety, emotional wellbeing, etc) and don't feel confident putting a child in that situation as well. I don't blame abortion clinics or the women seeking them. I blame the society that has failed them by not making them feel secure enough to have kids.
ReplyDeletePP doesnt' get much funding? Try almost a million $ a day! See the facts from their most recent annual report: http://www.all.org/article/index/id/ODI5Nw/.
ReplyDeleteYou're right that people need to do more. Did you know there are over 2,000 pregnancy care centers that offer help for free to pregnant women? Many of these offer ongoing help and support. They do not have budgets like PP, but rely on individuals and churches for funding. Many are struggling in these economic times, but are committed to continuing because women are struggling even more.
Going back to something you said earlier: yes, this is anti-abortion propaganda. But what about the propaganda that PP spreads in order to make a profit? They encourage young women to have sex outside marriage, and then offer them abortions when they get pregnant. Quite a cozy deal.
Frankly, PP doesn't need your advocacy. They put out plenty of it themselves, with lobbyists all over Washington and a huge fundraising machine. They are feeding off the poorest of the poor.
What propaganda are you talking about??? I used PP in my youth. They don't encourage anyone to have sex. They only give resources to do it safely. Whether those sexually active people are married or not is none of their business or yours or anyone else's. Their biggest service is BIRTH CONTROL. So they don't encourage people to get pregnant and abort. They don't even advertise so I don't get how people think they're "on the prowl" for pregnant minorities. Saying that abortion kills more black people than anything is propaganda and a lie. Saying that PP encourages unplanned pregnancies to profit off of abortions is propaganda and an even bigger lie. People have abortions. That won't change. Instead of bashing institutions that actually care about what the individual wants (PP has no bias toward abortion, parenting, or adoption unlike those "crisis" pregnancy centers who are only out to convince a girl not to abort even if that's what she wants to do) try making birth control more available to those who want it. Oh wait, PP does that too. I'm glad there is well funded pregnancy support for those who want it. But people need to understand that from pregnancy starts a life long journey and it's much harder on some people than others. It's not just telling someone that god wants them to keep their baby. There's no pro life advocacy group that can provide the real life long help that someone in that spot needs. I've used 2 of those before and all that nice funding went to paintings and furniture for a building where a lady can tell you over and over again (as politely as she can) not to abort and call it a counseling session. If you don't like abortion, fine. Then do something truly productive about it. Spreading lies won't stop someone from having one if that's what they truly want/need. So stop wasting money on advertising propaganda and put it towards say legal help to put restraining orders on the people these girls are afraid of hurting them, midwives and doulas for them, fast track education programs, food, shelter, cloth diapers, breastfeeding help and pumps, infant CPR classes, and such. Sure it'll cost more money than commercials, but don't you wanna help? If you advertised REAL help, you could actually make way more girls feel safe and confident about continuing pregnancies. And isn't that the point? Wanting people to see their pregnancy as a miracle rather than a tragedy they got stuck in? You're never gonna convince everyone that abortion isn't for them. Cause like it or not, it's the best option for a lot of people and they have the right to take that option. But if you cared enough, you could make it so that someone who WANTS to continue a pregnancy feels ready to do so. You won't get far focusing on embryos. You have to consider and want to help the pregnant women themselves, their environments, and their desires.
ReplyDeleteI need to apologize for adding fuel to a discussion that is getting a little heated. I take responsibility for that.
ReplyDeleteWe have a basic disagreement on what REAL help is. Is it real help to offer birth control which is 90% effective, or to help women avoid entanglements with unworthy men by remaining abstinent -- which is 100% effective? Is it real help to offer abortion, which carries with it some very real negative consequences, or to help a woman be the hero in her child's life by carrying to term?
There's room to argue about what's "truly productive" too. You certainly have some experience to draw on in evaluating both pro-life and pro-choice organizations. But I daresay that Planned Parenthood is not above criticism, as the advertisement and film point out.
As I said, perhaps you need to watch the film. It seen in its entirety on YouTube, starting here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic4SpdvmdOc&feature=related.
Re: abortion statistics for blacks, I'm sorry but you're wrong. Here's an article bearing that out: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/07/nyregion/07abortion.html?_r=2. Abortions in that city are twice the rate as in other parts of the country - 40% of all pregnancies. 60% of all black pregnancies in NYC are aborted, while black women account for something like 13% of the population.
That's alarming, don't you agree? That's why black leaders are speaking out against abortion. They focus on PP because it's the nation's largest abortion provider. Yes, they provide other services, but they also provide the most abortions.
I don't want a heated debate. But understand that just like spreading lies or bending truth with twisting words, "helping women avoid entanglements with unworthy men by remaining abstinent" will never work. You CAN NOT rely on telling people not to do something they want to do. People have been having sex since the beginning of people. It's obviously an enjoyed thing that's not going anywhere. Not everyone wants to wait for marriage or wants marriage at all. These are all personal choices that you have no place forcing on people. So since the majority of people choose to follow their natural instincts and have sex, it's a better service to make their choices safe rather than preach something that will never work. Trusting abstinence isn't realistic and you have to be realistic. It really doesn't matter if someone doesn't like that another person has sex out of wedlock or has an abortion. It's not that person's business or concern. Also keep in mind that there are plenty of people who get married but don't tell themselves they might as well become baby factories now. Birth control and abortion, like sex, is something that concerns married couples, unmarried couples, singles, and anyone who hits puberty. But the biggest point I'm trying to make here is that lying by calling abortion providers racist murderers won't increase abstinence rates.
ReplyDeleteI admit that abortion isn't natural. Like any medical procedure, it comes with risks. But to deny it's benefits and never mention the physical/emotional risks and hardship of parenthood (there's more to it than having a baby and changing diapers but I won't get into that) is plain ignorance. It's not black and white. It's a complicated decision that every individual has to make for themselves without the influence of lies or scare tactics.
I'm sorry, but I can't believe a statistic that says nearly half of all pregnancies are aborted. That sounds like a dramatic exaggeration. Even so, if 40% of women didn't want to be parents but did want to be sexually active, then you can either give them access to birth control or mind your own business. Because these very big personal choices are not up to other people to make. Telling someone NOT to have sex when they want to is no more acceptable than telling someone TO have sex when they don't want to. Telling someone TO have children when they don't want to is no more acceptable than telling someone who wants children NOT to have any. I can't believe anyone has the audacity to think they can boss people around like this. You either help people make their choices safe or butt out. I was told not to have sex. It didn't make me not have sex. I was told I shouldn't be "allowed" to have one of my own children. (and no, it wasn't by someone pressuring me to have an abortion) It didn't make me not have that child. Telling people how to live their lives is unethical and has no results. I can understand where pro-lifers are coming from. But it's not ok to force or trick people into doing what you want. I'm asking for people to understand that.
Perhaps we're not spreading lies or bending truth but giving another perspective -- one other than has been fed society by the PP machine. Women deserve the right to know the kinds of things that PP is not telling them: That abortion kills a person, not a "blob of tissue;" that the Pill and other forms of birth control don't protect from STDs; that abortion can cause future infertility.
ReplyDeleteWhere did you get the idea that pregnancy care centers "force" or "trick" women to do anything? Sounds like something that PP propaganda would say. Of course we know that women will do what they want about sexuality, but that doesn't change the truth that sex outside marriage carries many risks, and it won't stop us from talking about it -- which we have a right to do.
No one forces a woman to come to a pregnancy care center for help; she's free to take it or leave it. Women are forced to abort by a coercive parent or partner more often than you may think. Here's some information to back that up: http://unchoice.org/intro.htm.
I don't know who would tell you you shouldn't be allowed to have a child, but I'm fairly certain it wasn't someone at a pregnancy resource center. I think we fit your description of helping people make their choices and butting out. It's heartbreaking when someone walks out the door intent on getting an abortion despite what we've said, but we have to let them go. That happens all too often. I know of no center that bars the door or holds women hostage until they give in, or whatever scenario you're talking about. If you think speech is coercive, then there's no hope for our democracy.
Calling abortion providers racist murderers isn'tt a perspective. It's a lie. The majority of women seeking abortions are minorities. That's a statistic & there's nothing wrong with women knowing them. I've never heard an embryo referred to as a blob of tissue by anyone in the medical field. Sounds like another thing people like to falsely accuse abortion providers of doing. Whether or not it's a person is a whole other argument. I went to PP for birth control. Every person & pamphlet was very thorough in explaining the forms & what they do/don't do. They never claimed anything but condoms/abstinence protected against STDs & were honest about effectiveness of all methods. The risks of everything including abortion were covered. So again, people lie about PP trying to keep women ignorant when their biggest mission is helping them be informed.
ReplyDeleteAs someone who's gone to 2 pregnancy centers I can say from experience that they obviously have an agenda & only provide what caters to that. Their information was very biased/limited. A pamphlet I received said something along the lines of "How to Decide If You Should Abort". It was JUST a list of fetal development. The end was 40 weeks -you now have a beautiful baby & it finished off with "Now you have the information you need to make an informed choice." That was NOTHING on how to make an informed choice. If ANYONE is guilty of keeping women ignorant it's those places. When I speak of forcing I mean the political ways pro-lifers try to take away the option like making it illegal or ending funding. When I speak of trickingnI mean scare tactics (like expressing the risks of abortion as dangerous certainties) or (like one pamphlet I saw) saying abortionists don't sterilize their medical supplies, or just not giving someone the whole truth (good AND bad) about what comes with continuing an unplanned pregnancy. I'm not accusing the centers of physically forbidding abortions. I'm above making dishonest statements in attemp to help my cause.
Go ahead and talk about risks of sex out of marriage. But don't be so rude to pressure others into only doing what you find appropriate for family planning (remember there are people who don't ever want families & have just as much sexual need as anyone else). It's unfair to who ever is seeking help to only be told what YOU think instead of all the details of all HER/HIS options. Even married couples like to control their number of pregnancies & some have comfortable arrangements with not being exclusive. Marriage isn't a point where reproductive health/birth control no longer exist.
ReplyDeleteI know some are pressured into abortions they don't want. I find it disgusting. But just like forcing an unwilling woman to abort, forcing unwilling women to continue (by taking their financial aid, not allowing legal access to abortions or having them fear being shot by an extremist if they go to an abortion clinic) is also immoral & unethical. There are plenty of teens who were forced by their parents to give up a child for adoption when they want so badly to keep it. There are women who are forced to have and keep children they don't want. It changes her life forever as well as leaves that child with an uncommitted parent. What makes all these situations unfair is the individual's inability to choose for herself.
Abstinence til exclusive marriage with no use of birth control resulting in 10 kids may be for you. Condoms may be for a married couple of swingers. Sterilization may be for the sexually active single person. Pills may be for the exclusive unmarried couple. Fertility charting may be right for the couple who doesn't like drugs or devices in their body. Everyone's different & has options. Trying to hide or discredit those options is a harmful & offensive. If you talk to someone about abstinence & they decide it's not for them, you need to point them in the direction of a sex ed counselor. If you talk to someone about continuing a pregnancy & she decides she'd rather abort, you need to point her in the direction of a legal abortion provider. If you talk to someone about keeping a baby & she decides she'd rather give it up for adoption, you need to point her in the direction of an adoption agency. If you talk to someone about hormonal birth control & she decides it's not for her, you need to point her in the direction of a fertility awareness course. If you talk to someone about population control & they decide they want children, you need to point them in the direction of a fertility counselor. If you talk to someone about aborting & she decides she'd rather parent, you need to point her in the direction of a prenatal care provider, government assistance, childcare classes, & anything else she needs to be a good parent. It's all about choice & giving every person honest, complete, thorough information on every choice available & how to make that choice as safe as possible. If you're not doing that then you're really not out to help people. You're out to control them.
1) In point of fact Planned Parenthood DOES advertise, at least here in Houston. I have seen the billboards.
ReplyDelete2)They(PP) advocate educating kids to sexual activity from birth, and they do it in our school systems.
3)They also have the support of the teachers unions who will counsel kids to go to PP.
4) They encourage abortion through the distribution of inferior contraceptives.
5) Did you know that if you are pregnant, you can only get a free ultrasound at Planned Parenthood if you schedule and pay for an abortion?
6) Did you know that hormone based contraceptives and abortion increase a woman's risk of breast cancer, and that while involved in the 'Race for the Cure' PP knowing continues to push the cause, contraceptives and abortion? So much for caring about women.
6) But they also don't care about men. Did you know that Planned Parenthood produced a sex-ed brochure telling recipients it was 'up to HIV positive persons to decide if they should tell prospective sex partners their HIV status. Not only is that medically irresponsible, but it is illegal in several states.
7) One has to assume they send the same message about all STDs. Small wonder we have an epidemic of STDs. I guess the message is their sexual pleasure is more important than the other person's health or even life.
8) And although tax dollars have poured into PP's till for decade upon decade the outcome is not reduced poverty, reduced teen pregnancy, reduced STDs, reduced crime or improved female equality.
Study Authors Puzzled Why Abortions Rise with Contraceptive Use
ReplyDeleteThe results of a new study just published in the journal Contraception on contraception use and abortion rates in Spain have researchers puzzled.
The study, conducted over ten years, was meant to “acquire information about the use of contraceptive methods in order to reduce the number of elective abortions.” From 1997-2007, researchers recorded the various contraceptive methods being used by a representative group of Spanish women, as well as their abortion rates.
What they discovered has them completely baffled— as contraception use increased, so did the abortion rate.
Researchers Puzzled by Results
In fact, while contraceptive use among these women went up significantly over that period—from 49.1% to 79.9%—the abortion rate rose even more dramatically—from 5.52 to 11.49 per 1000 women.
In other words, a 63% increase in contraception use was accompanied by a 108% increase in abortions.
The Spanish researchers are completely at a loss to explain these results, concluding that “The factors responsible for the increased rate of elective abortion need further investigation.”
Their puzzlement is understandable: they set out with the assumption that contraception can be used to reduce abortion, hoping to fine-tune that basic approach. Instead, they found abortions only increased with more contraception.
More Contraception Means More Abortion—But Why?
The Spanish research team may be at a loss to explain these results, but they make perfect sense to pro-life advocates who have been saying for years that contraception is not the answer to abortion.
The impact that contraceptive use has on people’s sexual behavior is profound. Contraception does not merely mitigate the effects of people’s risky sexual behavior—it radically alters their sexual behavior.
Seemingly free of the most significant and concerning consequence of sex—pregnancy—people behave differently, just as one would expect. They’re more willing to take sexual risks—more sexual partners, more casual sex, more “cheating” etc.—and the end result is more unplanned pregnancy, not less; more abortion, not less.
I’m not saying that using contraception will turn any given individual into a sexual amoralist. But that’s the aggregate effect on contraception across our society.
I’ll go even farther and say that the widespread use and availability of contraceptives has fundamentally altered the way our entire society thinks about sex. Sex has become decoupled from pregnancy (and therefore from marriage and family), a change that impacts even those who are not, at the moment at least, using contraception.
Further Study Called for—Let’s Have It!
Meanwhile, here’s hoping that the “further investigation” the authors of this new study are calling for takes place. If they study these issues honestly, they’ll find out that we pro-lifers have been right all along: contraception increases abortion.
Pro-Life Action League
Anonymous said "Not everyone wants to wait for marriage or wants marriage at all. These are all personal choices that you have no place forcing on people. So since the majority of people choose to follow their natural instincts and have sex, it's a better service to make their choices safe rather than preach something that will never work. Trusting abstinence isn't realistic and you have to be realistic. It really doesn't matter if someone doesn't like that another person has sex out of wedlock or has an abortion. It's not that person's business or concern. Also keep in mind that there are plenty of people who get married but don't tell themselves they might as well become baby factories now. Birth control and abortion, like sex, is something that concerns married couples, unmarried couples, singles, and anyone who hits puberty."
ReplyDeleteIf anyone is fooling themselves that sex between unmarried persons is nobody else's business, look at the state of society since the so called "free love sexual revolution." Since the 1960s, our society has experienced an increase in STDs, pornography, rapes, sexual predators, divorces, single parenthood, abortion, child abuse, domestic violence, pregnancies at younger ages, etc. It is not just a result of more reporting either. These are huge societal problems that have consequences/fallout, so you can't say private sexual behavior doesn't affect the rest of us.
If there is documentation that asserts Planned Parenthood has behaved in a racist manner, then it's valid for that to be made known -- both to the general public and to our government which funds PP. Many black leaders are coming out and saying PP is racist, and they are calling their constituents to beware. I think that's a perfectly valid thing to do, given the huge numbers of abortions in the black community.
ReplyDeletePlanned Parenthood has also been caught lying to clients about fetal development and contributing to the coercion of minors seeking abortion. See the videos at http://liveaction.org/.
It is a matter of perspective, and we could go on all day talking past each other because we don't agree on some basic things. There's no way a Christian, pro-life organization is going to encourage or enable women to have sex outside marriage because we hold to the sanctity of marriage. Similarly, we're never going to facilitate an abortion, because we believe in the sanctity of human life. There's some of what you mention that does fit in with those beliefs -- like adoption -- but a lot that doesn't. We support and sacrifice for what we believe in, and shouldn't be criticized for not being willing to pay for what we don't believe in.
Planned Parenthood doesn't hold to our beliefs about life or marriage and we don't expect them to change, but we can speak out and say that we don't want our tax dollars supporting a group that so thoroughly opposes what we believe in. If PP didn't feed at the public trough we wouldn't have much to say about it. We'd still oppose them, but it wouldn't be as important to us.
WOOOOW! There are so many lies here that it's hard to keep up! I lived in Houston my whole life and went to school there. I also used the PP. What billboards there are are just a phone number and list of reproductive health services. No "Hey kids! Go have sex, don't use protection, get pregnant, then come to us for an abortion!" They do not encourage sexual activity from birth (where the hell did you get that from??) or not telling sexual partners about diseases. They offer the same birth control everyone else does and you don't have to pay for an abortion to get an ultrasound. Does anyone here feel any shame for being dishonest??
ReplyDeleteNo, someone else's sex life is not your business. Lack of SAFE sex spreads STDs. But if you're married and exclusive then that shouldn't affect you anyway. Pornography increased cause of how easy it has become to make and share it. But again, porn availability doesn't affect you if you don't watch it. Rape has always happened and it makes no sense to say that having sex before marriage affects that. Being married didn't stop my step father from molesting me as a child. Same for sexual predators. Divorce happens because more people are able to sustain themselves. It's not so standard anymore to be pressured into getting married young and having to stay in said unhappy marriage forever. Thankfully, people have the option to live their own lives now. Again, someone else's divorce doesn't affect you. Single parenthood is caused by trashy people who just don't take responsibility for their kids. In or out of marriage doesn't change the parent who leaves. Again, this doesn't affect you. Abortion happens with anyone who has sex at all and doesn't want children and comes from lack of safe sex. Married women have abortions. Again, this doesn't affect you. Child abuse has also always been around. People are just starting to care about it now. It's foolish to say it comes from having sex out of marriage. It comes from violent people. My mom was married all through my abuse. I had plenty of sex before marriage yet I've never abused my children and I'm a huge advocate of child safety. Domestic violence is also a result of just violent people. This actually happened abundantly in your admired time of forced marriage with no divorce option. Pregnancies have always happened at young ages because of nature. Humans hit puberty, develop our reproductive organs, become sexually aroused, mate, and reproduce. That's how it's always happened. This is only a problem now cause our societies are made to have people still considered children unable to sustain themselves even after they reach physical adulthood. The solution? Contraception. Your social problem examples either don't affect you or are just complete lies.
If it's your perspective that PP is a racist killing devil, that's unfortunate. If you admit that you know people will do what they want (which is very often not what you want) yet you still pressure only unwanted therefore ineffective "options", in the end you're doing nothing. If you don't put REAL effort into helping those who don't abort (buy them a convertible car seat, give them a place to live, be a trustworthy babysitter, help pay for their prenatal care, help them with work or chores in the stressful post partum phase) and just sit on your butt telling them that they're carrying life and god likes life, then in the end you're doing nothing. You don't like that there are institutions that make sex out of marriage safer for people so you "handle" them by spreading lie after lie, in. Thankfully the people who use these services know that you're liars. The only people who fall for it are those in your club who'd never consider it in the first place. So in the end you're doing nothing. So all this nothing is being done while those who are doing something get slandered. My perspective is that christian pro life advocates are just brainwashed terrorists on freedom of choice with no concern for any individual who is different from them who use propaganda to force their belief of an imaginary higher being on others focusing on demonizing the oldest and most basic thing in human kind (sex) and using blobs of cells as their mascot. Thankfully though, most people already know this. It was nice conversing with you all but it's apparent that your brainwashing can't be undone and neither compassion for all people nor logic can be taught to you. Enjoy your day bashing people and doing nothing for the productivity of the society you hate so dearly.
ReplyDeleteI just want to point out to you and the other readers that I published all your comments, Anonymous, including this last one that is rather abusive in nature. I doubt most "brainwashed terrorists" would do that.
ReplyDeleteThis just in from Planned Parenthood in Boston: http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/ambulance-transports-victim-from-boston-planned-parenthood-abortion-clinic/
ReplyDeleteOn National Geographic channel you can watch a program on fetal development from the moment of conception to birth. You can look at 14 medical textbooks on embryology. You can walk into a bookstore and flip open a book for pregnant moms with pictures of developing babies. You can see ultrasound pictures for yourself on the internet and even real photos of aborted babies. Anonymous, are you going to say that all these people are brainwashed? Only abortion proponents call the human being before their eyes a blob of cells.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, you remind me a person who has her/his fingers in her/his ears, eyes closed, and making noise so as not to hear the truth another person has to say. Wake up, you're in denial.
An excerpt from former Planned Parenthood director Abby Johnson's book Unplanned:
ReplyDeleteI was expecting to see what I had seen in past ultrasounds. Usually, depending on how far along the pregnancy was and how the fetus was turned, I’d first see a leg, or the head, or some partial image of the torso, and would need to maneuver a bit to get the best possible image. But this time, the image was complete. I could see the entire, perfect profile of a baby. . . The image now before me looked the same, only clearer, sharper. The detail startled me. I could clearly see the profile of the head, both arms, legs, and even tiny fingers and toes. Perfect. . . What am I about to see? My stomach tightened. I don’t want to watch what is about to happen.
I suppose that sounds odd coming from a professional who’d been running a Planned Parenthood clinic for two years, counseling women in crisis, scheduling abortions, . . . But odd or not, the simple fact is, I had never been interested in promoting abortion. I’d come to Planned Parenthood eight years before, believing that its purpose was primarily to prevent unwanted pregnancies, thereby reducing the number of abortions. That had certainly been my goal. And I believed that Planned Parenthood saved lives—the lives of women who, without the services provided by this organization, might resort to some back-alley butcher. . .
“Thirteen weeks,” I heard the nurse say after taking measurements to determine the fetus’s age. . .
The cool air of the exam room left me feeling chilled. My eyes still glued to the image of this perfectly formed baby, I watched as a new image entered the video screen. The cannula—a strawshaped instrument attached to the end of the suction tube—had been inserted into the uterus and was nearing the baby’s side. It
looked like an invader on the screen, out of place. Wrong. It just looked wrong.
My heart sped up. Time slowed. I didn’t want to look, but I didn’t want to stop looking either. I couldn’t not watch. . . My eyes flew to the patient’s face; tears flowed from the corners of her eyes. I could see she was in pain. The nurse dabbed the woman’s face with a tissue.
. . At first, the baby didn’t seem aware of the cannula. It gently probed the baby’s side, and for a quick second I felt relief. Of course, I thought. The fetus doesn’t feel pain. I had reassured countless women of this as I’d been taught by Planned Parenthood. The fetal tissue feels nothing as it is removed. Get a grip, Abby. This is a simple, quick medical procedure. My head was working hard to control my responses, but I couldn’t shake an inner disquiet that was quickly mounting to horror as I watched the screen.The next movement was the sudden jerk of a tiny foot as the baby started kicking, as if trying to move away from the probing invader. As the cannula pressed in, the baby began struggling to turn and twist away. It seemed clear to me that the fetus could feel the cannula and did not like the feeling. And then the doctor’s voice broke through, startling me.
“Beam me up, Scotty,” he said lightheartedly to the nurse. He was telling her to turn on the suction—in an abortion the suction isn’t turned on until the doctor feels he has the cannula in exactly the right place.
I had a sudden urge to yell, “Stop!” To shake the woman and say, “Look at what is happening to your baby! Wake up! Hurry! Stop them!” But even as I thought those words, I looked at my own hand holding the probe. I was one of “them” performing this act. My eyes shot back to the screen again. The cannula was already being
rotated by the doctor, and now I could see the tiny body violently twisting with it. For the briefest moment it looked as if the baby were being wrung like a dishcloth, twirled and squeezed. And then the little body crumpled and began disappearing into the cannula before my eyes. The last thing I saw was the tiny, perfectly formed backbone sucked into the tube, and then everything was gone. And the uterus was empty. Totally empty.
Response to Anonymous' remark (January 11, 2011 12:32 PM) that "it doesn't affect you": If that's true, then don't involve me by using my tax dollars (again, almost $1 million per day) to support what you do. As long as PP feeds at the public trough, we the people have something to say about it, whether we use PP's services or not.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, I am sorry you were molested. These things do not happen in a vacuum. Actions have consequences. There is a ripple effect throughout society. Remember what Dr. M. L. King said "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
ReplyDeleteI work with juvenile offenders. It is very rare for these juveniles to come from an intact home. We know children do better in homes with caring, committed, connected, moral adults in their lives. I've treated kids who have been affected by one or more of the social problems I mentioned. They were abused, molested, had parents who had multiple sexual partners perhaps engaged in prostitution, whose mothers had abortions, exposed to domestic violence, etc. These kids in turn victimized others (and themselves) by committing crimes including sexual offences. Because of a dysfunctional home life, they continued the cycle until they got help to understand their past and their problems.
Safer sex may reduce the risk of STDs, but it does not eliminate it. Condoms are not a panacea and can give people a false sense of security. They don't protect against some types of STDs at all. Pornography fuels sexual offenders.
Generally speaking, children are shaped for good by having more positive experiences in their lives, and for worse by the negative experiences. The trend of the increase in family and societal problems since the 1960s is there. These are facts, not lies.
I would also appreciate it if you debated the issue and not engage in ad hominem attacks. Just because you do not agree with pro-lifers does not mean we are brainwashed. When a person makes an ad hominen attack, it means he or she can't honestly defend his/her position.
Thanks to everyone who commented. We recognize that there are many different opinions on this issue, but we believe it is very important to remind people that there have been countless minority women (as well as others) who have been pressured to have abortions. It is also important to remember that there is currently a waiting list of loving families who want to adopt black infants, so every baby can and should be welcomed into the world.
ReplyDeleteWider distribution of birth control sounds good in theory, but we have to ask ourselves why we have more birth control available than ever before and far more out of wedlock conceptions than we did when there was less birth control available. The birth control argument also ignores the increase of STDs (nearly half of all black teenagers have genital herpes) and the failure rate for young women.